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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 05:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ø­ÙŽÙˆÙ’Ù„ÙÙŠÙ‘ÙŽØ§ØªÙ ØµÙŽØ§Ø­ÙØ¨Ù Ø§Ù„Ø£Ø´Ù’Ø¬ÙŽØ§Ø±Ù &#187; &#8230;ÙˆØ§Ù„Ù„Ù‡ Ø¹Ù„Ù‰ Ù…Ø§ Ø£Ù‚ÙˆÙ„ Ø´Ù‡ÙŠØ¯</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2004/11/22/saad-eddin-ibrahim-wants-to-contest-presidency/#comment-6234</link>
		<dc:creator>Ø­ÙŽÙˆÙ’Ù„ÙÙŠÙ‘ÙŽØ§ØªÙ ØµÙŽØ§Ø­ÙØ¨Ù Ø§Ù„Ø£Ø´Ù’Ø¬ÙŽØ§Ø±Ù &#187; &#8230;ÙˆØ§Ù„Ù„Ù‡ Ø¹Ù„Ù‰ Ù…Ø§ Ø£Ù‚ÙˆÙ„ Ø´Ù‡ÙŠØ¯</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: issandr</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2004/11/22/saad-eddin-ibrahim-wants-to-contest-presidency/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>issandr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know what chances he would have running as an independent without a party machine behind him. The publisher of the Cairo Times, Hisham Kassem (who currently runs a liberal daily backed by big businessmen called Masri Al Youm), tried to run on a human rights platform in 2000 in the central Qasr Al Ayni district of Cairo, which basically grabs some of the wealthiest residents of the country. Unfortunately for him, he was running against Hossam Badrawi, a doctor and businessman who is one of the leading members of the new generation of NDP politicians. Badrawi could outspend Kassem easily and could also use the party machine to get votes. For instance, buses are organised to take civil servants to vote for the NDP. Most people would probably comply because they don't want to risk losing their job.

The other thing is that Saad Eddin Ibrahim, while popular with foreigners, is not popular in Egypt. This is partly because of the success of the defamation campaign against him a few years ago, partly because of his pro-American views (he could be seen, and easily portrayed, as an Egyptian Chalabi), and partly because of his reputation for being arrogant. In particular, Ibrahim is not that popular with the left-wing opposition or the human rights community, who remember him as someone that once was close to the powers that be.

Ironically, the best chance a reformist democrat would have to get into parliament is to run in the countryside, where family allegiances usually determine who gets elected. This has been the case for instance with some Wafd party leaders, who come from big land-owning families and can count on the support of their tenant farmers and other families in those districts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what chances he would have running as an independent without a party machine behind him. The publisher of the Cairo Times, Hisham Kassem (who currently runs a liberal daily backed by big businessmen called Masri Al Youm), tried to run on a human rights platform in 2000 in the central Qasr Al Ayni district of Cairo, which basically grabs some of the wealthiest residents of the country. Unfortunately for him, he was running against Hossam Badrawi, a doctor and businessman who is one of the leading members of the new generation of NDP politicians. Badrawi could outspend Kassem easily and could also use the party machine to get votes. For instance, buses are organised to take civil servants to vote for the NDP. Most people would probably comply because they don&#8217;t want to risk losing their job.</p>
<p>The other thing is that Saad Eddin Ibrahim, while popular with foreigners, is not popular in Egypt. This is partly because of the success of the defamation campaign against him a few years ago, partly because of his pro-American views (he could be seen, and easily portrayed, as an Egyptian Chalabi), and partly because of his reputation for being arrogant. In particular, Ibrahim is not that popular with the left-wing opposition or the human rights community, who remember him as someone that once was close to the powers that be.</p>
<p>Ironically, the best chance a reformist democrat would have to get into parliament is to run in the countryside, where family allegiances usually determine who gets elected. This has been the case for instance with some Wafd party leaders, who come from big land-owning families and can count on the support of their tenant farmers and other families in those districts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Edelstein</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2004/11/22/saad-eddin-ibrahim-wants-to-contest-presidency/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Edelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 04:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought only the Maldives used the "election first, vote later" plan.  Evidently I was wrong.

At any rate, a Sa'ad Eddin Ibrahim run would be interesting but, as you say, probably not realistic.  Is there any chance he might find a safe seat and run for parliament next year as an independent?  He wouldn't be able to accomplish too much but he might at least have a bigger platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought only the Maldives used the &#8220;election first, vote later&#8221; plan.  Evidently I was wrong.</p>
<p>At any rate, a Sa&#8217;ad Eddin Ibrahim run would be interesting but, as you say, probably not realistic.  Is there any chance he might find a safe seat and run for parliament next year as an independent?  He wouldn&#8217;t be able to accomplish too much but he might at least have a bigger platform.</p>
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