Comments on: Protest against Mubarak’s rule http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/ Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:18:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Jawad http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-153755 Jawad Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:44:42 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-153755 http://www.sukrat.blogspot.com http://www.sukrat.blogspot.com

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]]> By: حَوْلِيَّاتُ صَاحِبِ الأشْجَارِ » البس حاجة خضرا.. البسي حاجة خضرا http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-6233 حَوْلِيَّاتُ صَاحِبِ الأشْجَارِ » البس حاجة خضرا.. البسي حاجة خضرا Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:12:35 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-6233 [...] ØŒ مقر أعلى سلطة قضائية في مصر. وكما كتبت معلقا على مدونة العروبي، بالرغم من أن غالبية المصر٠[...] [...] ØŒ مقر أعلى سلطة قضائية في مصر. وكما كتبت معلقا على مدونة العروبي، بالرغم من أن غالبية المصر٠[...]

]]> By: حَوْلِيَّاتُ صَاحِبِ الأشْجَارِ » البس حاجة خضرا.. البسي حاجة خضرا http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-5960 حَوْلِيَّاتُ صَاحِبِ الأشْجَارِ » البس حاجة خضرا.. البسي حاجة خضرا Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:48:28 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-5960 [...] ØŒ مقر أعلى سلطة قضائية في مصر. وكما كتبت معلقا على مدونة العروبي، بالرغم من أن غالبية المصر٠[...] [...] ØŒ مقر أعلى سلطة قضائية في مصر. وكما كتبت معلقا على مدونة العروبي، بالرغم من أن غالبية المصر٠[...]

]]> By: The Arabist Network &raquo; Activists Arrested in Cairo http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-3243 The Arabist Network &raquo; Activists Arrested in Cairo Wed, 02 Feb 2005 12:40:53 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-3243 rotest extending the current president&#8217;s mandate. The fact that such a demo happened on 11 December but is not allowed now is an incremental shift that needs no [...] rotest extending the current president&#8217;s mandate. The fact that such a demo happened on 11 December but is not allowed now is an incremental shift that needs no [...]

]]> By: Hellme http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2348 Hellme Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:32:18 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2348 As much as I am delighted that there is some semblence of 'free speech' in Egypt, I am alarmed at the turnout of these demonstrations, and it only goes to highlight the danger of towing the 'reform' line without considering repurcussions. While we all agree that Saddam was a bad, bad man, I think most would have to admit that the American alternative is grim and unappealing in every sense. Similarly, while Mubarak's rule may not be classed as the epitome of democracy, one has to consider what the alternatives are. Communists? Socialist? The Muslim Brotherhood? The anti-everythings? Mubarak's 'chaos' line isn't all fluff - there is a grain of truth in there. If the liberal left, or the democractic center do not formulate a cohesive strategy, filling the eventual void that may develop if Mubarak has to allow some form of free political expression, I personally fear for the consequence. Any knee-jerk reaction to democracy right now seems destined to be just as authoritarian as the encumbant's. I do not wish to live under strict Islamic rule, nor do I wish to experiment with communism. Am I going to attend demonstrations whose only motiff is 'enough'? Hell no. Don't take me wrong - enough indeed. But then what? I'm not going to be grinning if the Mubaraks step down because - at the moment - those who will step up for the job are just as bad. As much as I am delighted that there is some semblence of ‘free speech’ in Egypt, I am alarmed at the turnout of these demonstrations, and it only goes to highlight the danger of towing the ‘reform’ line without considering repurcussions.

While we all agree that Saddam was a bad, bad man, I think most would have to admit that the American alternative is grim and unappealing in every sense. Similarly, while Mubarak’s rule may not be classed as the epitome of democracy, one has to consider what the alternatives are. Communists? Socialist? The Muslim Brotherhood? The anti-everythings?

Mubarak’s ‘chaos’ line isn’t all fluff - there is a grain of truth in there. If the liberal left, or the democractic center do not formulate a cohesive strategy, filling the eventual void that may develop if Mubarak has to allow some form of free political expression, I personally fear for the consequence. Any knee-jerk reaction to democracy right now seems destined to be just as authoritarian as the encumbant’s. I do not wish to live under strict Islamic rule, nor do I wish to experiment with communism. Am I going to attend demonstrations whose only motiff is ‘enough’? Hell no. Don’t take me wrong - enough indeed. But then what? I’m not going to be grinning if the Mubaraks step down because - at the moment - those who will step up for the job are just as bad.

]]> By: Jonathan Edelstein http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2248 Jonathan Edelstein Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:02:24 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2248 The fact that this protest happened at all (and was allowed to disperse peacefully) is good news; the sparse attendance isn't as good but is probably to be expected. I wonder whether it was allowed to happen mainly so that the mukhabarat could see who showed up. The fact that this protest happened at all (and was allowed to disperse peacefully) is good news; the sparse attendance isn’t as good but is probably to be expected. I wonder whether it was allowed to happen mainly so that the mukhabarat could see who showed up.

]]> By: Stacher http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2246 Stacher Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:14:13 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2246 Apparently, there was a lot of CSF and top brass at the Center because 17 activists were meeting and discussing strategies. Yet, nothing happened and no reported arrests yet. Apparently, there was a lot of CSF and top brass at the Center because 17 activists were meeting and discussing strategies. Yet, nothing happened and no reported arrests yet.

]]> By: Stacher http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2244 Stacher Mon, 13 Dec 2004 08:54:35 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2244 I received a text message saying that the Center for Socialist Studies was the CSF's target last night. I received a text message saying that the Center for Socialist Studies was the CSF’s target last night.

]]> By: Liberals Against Terrorism http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2242 Liberals Against Terrorism Mon, 13 Dec 2004 02:58:53 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2242 <strong>Excitement in Egypt</strong> Issandr El Amrani has a first-hand story about what he says is the first protest ever that was specifically against Mubarak (and against his transparent maneuv Excitement in Egypt

Issandr El Amrani has a first-hand story about what he says is the first protest ever that was specifically against Mubarak (and against his transparent maneuv

]]> By: ::the.exiled.afrikan:: &raquo; Censorship http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2240 ::the.exiled.afrikan:: &raquo; Censorship Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:45:40 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2240 n Cairo during the past week, and we&#8217;re not even aware of them. There&#8217;s been a protest against Mubarak today and it isn&#8217;t even reported (officially) [...] n Cairo during the past week, and we&#8217;re not even aware of them. There&#8217;s been a protest against Mubarak today and it isn&#8217;t even reported (officially) [...]

]]> By: صاحب الأشجار http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2239 صاحب الأشجار Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:20:54 +0000 http://arabist.net/archives/2004/12/12/protest-against-mubaraks-rule/#comment-2239 I was at the demonstration today, but also roaming outside the seige, watching all the Egyptians who decided to participate from outside the. Three by-passer women, whom I later knew were illetrate and could not read the words on the Yellow banners, were persistently standing in silence around the seige, trying every now and then to interpret what the slogans mean, and being brushed off by several security persons, only to move the the next corner around the courthouse. Today I learned that an Islamic discourse may be the most effective, but is not the only way to reach grassroots Egypt. I was at the demonstration today, but also roaming outside the seige, watching all the Egyptians who decided to participate from outside the. Three by-passer women, whom I later knew were illetrate and could not read the words on the Yellow banners, were persistently standing in silence around the seige, trying every now and then to interpret what the slogans mean, and being brushed off by several security persons, only to move the the next corner around the courthouse.

Today I learned that an Islamic discourse may be the most effective, but is not the only way to reach grassroots Egypt.

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