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	<title>Comments on: Yesterday&#8217;s Demo in Shubra</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-39131</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can also take a look at some relevant pages in the field of- Tons of interesdting stuff!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-32194</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice page. It's good to have kids who can use this medium to find you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice page. It&#8217;s good to have kids who can use this medium to find you</p>
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		<title>By: SP</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-15035</link>
		<dc:creator>SP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the Kefaya lot and all their offshoots/allies are sensible enough to realise that they can't give the regime a stick to beat them with by getting into clashes with security forces.  Non-violent civil disobedience is most powerful.  With all the cameras that are present at demonstrations these days, I doubt the regime will be able to get away with inciting riots either.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the Kefaya lot and all their offshoots/allies are sensible enough to realise that they can&#8217;t give the regime a stick to beat them with by getting into clashes with security forces.  Non-violent civil disobedience is most powerful.  With all the cameras that are present at demonstrations these days, I doubt the regime will be able to get away with inciting riots either.  </p>
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		<title>By: Alif</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-14840</link>
		<dc:creator>Alif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm still contemplating this new behaviour, (unwitnessed before?).

What I fear is that the next demo, or the one after, riots incited by the regime's direction will be the basis for more violent behaviour to come.

Pessimistic, yes..because I don't understand this one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still contemplating this new behaviour, (unwitnessed before?).</p>
<p>What I fear is that the next demo, or the one after, riots incited by the regime&#8217;s direction will be the basis for more violent behaviour to come.</p>
<p>Pessimistic, yes..because I don&#8217;t understand this one!</p>
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		<title>By: Sp</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-14824</link>
		<dc:creator>Sp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course he drives a Lexus - remember The Lexus and the Olive Tree?  </description>
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		<title>By: Issandr El Amrani</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-14823</link>
		<dc:creator>Issandr El Amrani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought he drove a Toyota Prius! Won't the Lexus eat up all that fuel the Saudis are blackmailing America with?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought he drove a Toyota Prius! Won&#8217;t the Lexus eat up all that fuel the Saudis are blackmailing America with?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-14799</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unrelated to this post, but possibly of prurient interest to Arabist editors and readers, Thomas Friedman drove past me Thursday in Washington, DC, while I was cycling. You know what else? He drives a Lexus. I was so astonished I didn't even have time to flip him the bird before he was gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unrelated to this post, but possibly of prurient interest to Arabist editors and readers, Thomas Friedman drove past me Thursday in Washington, DC, while I was cycling. You know what else? He drives a Lexus. I was so astonished I didn&#8217;t even have time to flip him the bird before he was gone.</p>
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		<title>By: A7mad</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-14724</link>
		<dc:creator>A7mad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
We can't thank u enough, Josh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#8217;t thank u enough, Josh.</p>
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		<title>By: MysteriousStranger</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-14526</link>
		<dc:creator>MysteriousStranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Josh,
I would like to contact you in private. Please write me at the adress written below.
Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Josh,<br />
I would like to contact you in private. Please write me at the adress written below.<br />
Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online&#187;Blog Archive
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		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-14175</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online&#187;Blog Archive
 &#187; Thursday World Blog Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] laging on June 30the, the 45th anniversary of DR Congo&#8217;s independence from Belgium. 	 	Middle East: The Arabist Network  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] laging on June 30the, the 45th anniversary of DR Congo&#8217;s independence from Belgium. 	 	Middle East: The Arabist Network  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SP</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-13907</link>
		<dc:creator>SP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teehee...I figured you were either being sardonic or super-earnest and worried about your blog being shut down :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teehee&#8230;I figured you were either being sardonic or super-earnest and worried about your blog being shut down <img src='http://www.arabist.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josh Stacher</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-13896</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Stacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SP - I, too, have a difficult time reconciling all these offshoots from Kifaya. But actually speaking with the various activists, it seems that there are discontented people who don't want to link up with Kifaya but are comfortable with other groups like PC4Change, Youth4Change, Shafeenkum,the no-name internet independent group, and the National Apology Campaign.

There are slight divisions and people are rallying around different groups loosed based off of what Kifaya started in December 04. So it is a bit beyond Kifaya at this point from my understanding. 

As per the torture bit, I was sarcastically referencing the NCHR first annual report, which was released in April 05. When the report discusses torture in Egypt, that is the types of phrases they use. Sorry if the reference wasn't clear.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SP - I, too, have a difficult time reconciling all these offshoots from Kifaya. But actually speaking with the various activists, it seems that there are discontented people who don&#8217;t want to link up with Kifaya but are comfortable with other groups like PC4Change, Youth4Change, Shafeenkum,the no-name internet independent group, and the National Apology Campaign.</p>
<p>There are slight divisions and people are rallying around different groups loosed based off of what Kifaya started in December 04. So it is a bit beyond Kifaya at this point from my understanding. </p>
<p>As per the torture bit, I was sarcastically referencing the NCHR first annual report, which was released in April 05. When the report discusses torture in Egypt, that is the types of phrases they use. Sorry if the reference wasn&#8217;t clear.</p>
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		<title>By: SP</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2005/06/23/demo-in-shubra/#comment-13895</link>
		<dc:creator>SP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great summary and pictures, Josh.  I didn't hear many comments from the onlookers except for the odd "al mu'arada" with knowing nod and laugh, but would be curious to know what sorts of things people heard.

What's with the Popular Campaign for Change vs. Popular Movements for Change?  It seemed like a Kefaya show to me.  It's all rather like the Judean People's Front and the Popular Front of Judea....

As for the unverified accusations of torture, there are endless testimonies in the papers and documentation by human rights orgs...

http://hrw.org/reports/2005/egypt0505/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great summary and pictures, Josh.  I didn&#8217;t hear many comments from the onlookers except for the odd &#8220;al mu&#8217;arada&#8221; with knowing nod and laugh, but would be curious to know what sorts of things people heard.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s with the Popular Campaign for Change vs. Popular Movements for Change?  It seemed like a Kefaya show to me.  It&#8217;s all rather like the Judean People&#8217;s Front and the Popular Front of Judea&#8230;.</p>
<p>As for the unverified accusations of torture, there are endless testimonies in the papers and documentation by human rights orgs&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://hrw.org/reports/2005/egypt0505/" rel="nofollow">http://hrw.org/reports/2005/egypt0505/</a></p>
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