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	<title>Comments on: Links June 8th to June 10th</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Amre El-Abyad</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2008/06/10/links-june-8th-to-june-10th/#comment-421234</link>
		<dc:creator>Amre El-Abyad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine pig.... There is nothing I ever hate more than pigs crossing their lines</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine pig&#8230;. There is nothing I ever hate more than pigs crossing their lines</p>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2008/06/10/links-june-8th-to-june-10th/#comment-421193</link>
		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh, I don't think I'll be visiting your blog / website any time soon, or emailing my itin to some anonymous internet wackjob. That said, offer stands: name and a mobile number and I'll meet you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll be visiting your blog / website any time soon, or emailing my itin to some anonymous internet wackjob. That said, offer stands: name and a mobile number and I&#8217;ll meet you.</p>
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		<title>By: amre el-abyad</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2008/06/10/links-june-8th-to-june-10th/#comment-421150</link>
		<dc:creator>amre el-abyad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you are coming  to Egypt..pig, email me. The adress is on my blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you are coming  to Egypt..pig, email me. The adress is on my blog</p>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2008/06/10/links-june-8th-to-june-10th/#comment-421012</link>
		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely. That sounds delightful. Send me your name and mobile number and we'll have a cup of tea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely. That sounds delightful. Send me your name and mobile number and we&#8217;ll have a cup of tea.</p>
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		<title>By: Amre El-Abyad</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2008/06/10/links-june-8th-to-june-10th/#comment-420746</link>
		<dc:creator>Amre El-Abyad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MC needs to be beaten to near death, for talking about his masters in this way.

Please MC let me see you face to face next time you are in Cairo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MC needs to be beaten to near death, for talking about his masters in this way.</p>
<p>Please MC let me see you face to face next time you are in Cairo</p>
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		<title>By: mc</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2008/06/10/links-june-8th-to-june-10th/#comment-420738</link>
		<dc:creator>mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Khoury: “…Arab governments should quickly reconsider [the use of security forces to beat their populations into compliance] before they do irreparable damage to their societies.” What the heck? 

“Single-party ruling elites that have been in power for three to four decades…” which took over from what? Democracies characterized by strong institutions, balanced power sharing and multiple, mature political parties? According to Khoury, who says that these wretched governments are undermining political systems and social orders held over from the 1920s, “Parliaments, political parties, elections and most civil society and non-governmental organizations have all suffered…”

Couldn’t agree more that the Mubarak crowd or the Assad crowd (or whichever other kleptocratic crowd of semi-literate bumpkins he’s talking about) have been a terrible burden on the region, but he makes it sound like the Middle East is a splinter state, created after WWII by the division of Finland and relocated to a blank spot on the map between Turkey and Africa. Come on: Egypt’s been run by despots through their security forces since… well, I dunno, when wasn’t it? And what’s more, like Mubarak, they’ve been foreign-backed more often than not since Alexander left that Ptolemy guy in charge.

These aren’t societies to which the heavy-handed attentions of village policeman raised up to the status of security thugs by village bigmen, themselves raised up to the status of colonial satraps, is foreign. Far from it. Might not be good. Might not be nice. But to suggest that the last 50 years of Middle East history has been a downhill slide from some kind of state of institutional grace is at best silly, and at worst indicative of some kind of weird colonial nostalgia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Khoury: “…Arab governments should quickly reconsider [the use of security forces to beat their populations into compliance] before they do irreparable damage to their societies.” What the heck? </p>
<p>“Single-party ruling elites that have been in power for three to four decades…” which took over from what? Democracies characterized by strong institutions, balanced power sharing and multiple, mature political parties? According to Khoury, who says that these wretched governments are undermining political systems and social orders held over from the 1920s, “Parliaments, political parties, elections and most civil society and non-governmental organizations have all suffered…”</p>
<p>Couldn’t agree more that the Mubarak crowd or the Assad crowd (or whichever other kleptocratic crowd of semi-literate bumpkins he’s talking about) have been a terrible burden on the region, but he makes it sound like the Middle East is a splinter state, created after WWII by the division of Finland and relocated to a blank spot on the map between Turkey and Africa. Come on: Egypt’s been run by despots through their security forces since… well, I dunno, when wasn’t it? And what’s more, like Mubarak, they’ve been foreign-backed more often than not since Alexander left that Ptolemy guy in charge.</p>
<p>These aren’t societies to which the heavy-handed attentions of village policeman raised up to the status of security thugs by village bigmen, themselves raised up to the status of colonial satraps, is foreign. Far from it. Might not be good. Might not be nice. But to suggest that the last 50 years of Middle East history has been a downhill slide from some kind of state of institutional grace is at best silly, and at worst indicative of some kind of weird colonial nostalgia.</p>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
		<link>http://arabist.net/archives/2008/06/10/links-june-8th-to-june-10th/#comment-420699</link>
		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Egypt Population: Love it! Egypt’s problems don’t lie in the spineless ineptitude of its government, the venality of its political class or even the tendency of its army to face the wall and bite a pillow every time a Jew with a gun comes into view. Nooooooooo: Egypt’s problems stem entirely from the fact fellaheen like to ride bareback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Egypt Population: Love it! Egypt’s problems don’t lie in the spineless ineptitude of its government, the venality of its political class or even the tendency of its army to face the wall and bite a pillow every time a Jew with a gun comes into view. Nooooooooo: Egypt’s problems stem entirely from the fact fellaheen like to ride bareback.</p>
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